The Critical First Test.
Do you need to act?
So there I was sitting in a folding chair ready to take notes from a well-known professional acting coach. I was anxious to hear the ‘secret’ to the acting business in Atlanta. She began, “Don’t be an actor unless you need to.” This was the advice given to her by one of her her acting teachers. “She” was Lisina Stoneburner, Co-executive Director of the The Company Acting Studio in Atlanta, Georgia. The lesson Lisina was trying to get across to this small, ragtag group of aspiring actors is that this business of acting is rough. It takes commitment, sacrifice, persistence, ongoing training, talent, risk, honesty, and yes, investment in yourself to even have a chance at acting on the professional level. On top of that, this business of acting is brutal, unforgiving, at times rude, dismissive, unfair, fickle, and downright inconsiderate. So when Lisina told us this nugget of wisdom she gleaned from her acting coach, here’s what she meant: You had better have such a deep, soulful yearning to act that if you don’t act, you’ll be missing one of the primary purposes of your life. Bottom line, it requires that kind of commitment.
So, if you are a parent wanting your child to be the next Shirley Temple or Macaulay Culkin, or if you “would just love to be famous” – do us all a favor and stay home. The child (not Mom/Dad) or you, the actor, have to want this with every fiber of your being. If you don’t, you will almost always fail and fail painfully having wasted money, time, effort, and frustration. I don’t say this to scare you (well, kind of). I say it to let you know that you will need tough skin grown from your own deep need to act to survive the crap that you will have to wade through (from your own areas of weakness to casting directors who don’t care if you can’t pay your bills). Remember, this is a business and the people in this business are there to make money, not make you feel good.
Remember the film The Shawshank Redemption? The lead character, Andy, played by Tim Robbins, broke out of prison by crawling through the sewage pipes of the prison- the SEWAGE pipes…of the PRISON. Navigating a professional acting career, from an emotional standpoint, is not unlike Andy’s journey. But if you have the desire, courage, comittment, and talent, it can be a wonderful journey that is worth it…and you’ve passed the first test.
So, the question remains, “How to I begin a professional acting career?”
Next post: Seven Steps To A Professional Acting Career
Thank you for your information on your website. It saved me from an acting scam for my daughter. You also give excellent advice on how to get started with an acting career. This is something my 5yr old daughter has a strong desire for.
Thank you,
Cassie and Heaven Butcher
Thanks Cassie! Glad you found it helpful. I hope Heaven has lots of fun pursuing acting. I’d love to hear your success stories as she progresses. So come back and let us know. -Larry
Are there any true modeling agencies in Ohio? Please help!
Alex,
Ohio is a tiny market for modeling, relatively speaking. Most of the modeling agencies (certainly all of the ones advertising themselves) are ripoffs. There may be some, but you want to look at truly getting into modeling, I’d recommend looking at the Chicago market.
Hope that helps.
Larry
Hello Larry so I filled out the application to be in big brother on a website called http://realitytalent.net/ do u know if this is a scam or real? Thank you
Crystal,
Here is a response to a similar comment:
What are your thoughts on One Source Talent in Atlanta Ga?
They are a ripoff, in my opinion, Stephen. Avoid them.
Thanks. Still looking to break into acting.
Hello Larry. I think it’s so great that you do this for us “hopefuls” that can easily allow our desire for fame make us marks for rip off artists. That being said, my question is, what do you think of “The Studio Group”?
what are your thoughts on inspire talent in denver
Not a fan. I would avoid them. They are not a talent agency, they are a “Talent Development” company.
I’m wondering if this call Talent of Hollywood is real?
Unfortunately, we cannot know every agency in the US. We suggest that people be wary of companies that are requesting several thousands of dollars to train and represent you.
Is there true talent agency in Tacoma Washington
Check the SAG-AFTRA website for legit agencies in Seattle (which includes the Tacoma area). https://www.sagaftra.org/professional-representatives/sag-franchised-agents
You’ll find only legit agents on that list.
Larry
My child is being recruited by LA TALENT SHOWCASE, they spoke to her, filled her head with a lot of ideas about becoming a child actess, took a head shot for the “judges” to view that evening, then called back saying she was accepted, that she needed to go to their office immediately the next day (when she had school) and pay money. Sounds like a scam to me. Are they legitimate?
Nancy, your instincts are right. RUN! They try to rush you into it because the sale falls apart for them if logic kicks in. Follow the instructions on my video (https://actingcareerinfo.com/find-legitimate-talent-agencies-resources/) to find reputable resources in your area. Hope that helps! -Larry
Can you help me find a true talent agency or an angent please, because I got ripped off with a company?
So sorry to hear that Zoie. Here’s how to find the legit resources: https://actingcareerinfo.com/find-legitimate-talent-agencies-resources/
Larry
Goodmorning Larry
I was just accepted from DISCOVERY SPOTLIGHT and they are saying I have to make some deposits as well as some monthly payments after that. It has seemed legitimate, although after reading your material, I’m pretty skeptical. Do you happen to know if DISCOVERY SPOTLIGHT is legit?
Larry….JUST stumbled upon your article and it couldn’t have been at a better time. My daughter was “chosen”/ selected for two call backs from an event we attended for 321 shine company (advertised on radio). Owner, Owen Howell claims to have been in the business of successfully scouting and “placing” talent for almost 20 years now. Again, similar story…various packages offered, payments made/package chosen will determine length of “contract” in which they will coach, represent and “shop” your child around for jobs. Any info on this particular group…although, I have a feeling I know what you would advise me to do. Any insight would be much appreciated!
Nell, if it looks, sounds, and acts like a duck…. You are right. Run away.
Follow my steps for the right path of getting into the industry here: https://actingcareerinfo.com/videocast-avoiding-talent-agency-scams-starting/
What did you do after all for the 321 callback
Nell,
You don’t do anything. Run away from that company. They are a ripoff. Download my free ripoff guide to learn how to spot the ripoff companies. It’s on the top of my webpage. -Larry
What about international talent showcase? Are they a ripoff? Don’t want my child disappointed
I would avoid them. These “showcases” are the ripoffs I’m talking about in my blog.
Hello there dear,
So I have been wanted to be a big time actress for 12 years now. I have been spending money for classes. One was Acting up which was the best years of my life. But stage performing wasn’t fill my hunger of acting.
So like an idiot I ignored my coach and mentor and went to Barberzion to try and be an amazing actor. Worst mistake of my life. Went to their classes all modeling small bit of acting and I went to IMTA. I felt like I didn’t get the proper coaching since the focused on the modeling…
When I only got one callback at IMTA I felt like I was dropped from Barberzion. Over a year I was trying to get a hold of them because hey I payed you guys to get me a job. But no answer and no replies….
Now I tried a new place. It was 100% acting and the head honcho soncered me so I felt safe and leget but I am going to ipop… Well if I can get $10,000 dollars together…
Well what I am getting at is… Am I even able to get in this business? How do I get in? Where are these auditions? Why must I pay so much money for agents and coaches? Is it really that difficult for an agent to find me an audition or do I have to find them myself? ( because I will)
Estrella,
You don’t have to pay so much. That’s what is this blog is about.
Start at the first link below to follow my seven steps. It sounds like you might already be on step three or four. Yes, you will need an agent, but a legit agent, not a ripoff company. The second link below is a video I did that shows you how to find and submit to the legit agents in your area. Hope that helps! -Larry
https://actingcareerinfo.com/sevensteps
https://actingcareerinfo.com/find-legitimate-talent-agencies-resources/
My 15 year old son heard a commercial of 321shine in the area one day only. He had his second call in, but something they said didn’t sound right. I didn’t take him. Did o save him a heartbreak and us the package money they were seeking.
You were right, Gretchen. That’s not how to get into the industry. He should start with local theater and build some experience first. When he turns 18, he should have some credits to put on a resume and can submit to real talent agents in your area. -Larry
What about explore talent do you think are they a ripoff
Yes I do.
What about premiere? We herd the ad on the radio. The did auditions in Cleveland ohio. They have a website up and say they do this big thing in Disney world for scouts and so on. http://www.premiereinfo.com please let me know what you think, Thanks
An ad on the radio, using Disney’s name to promote their business… All of that SCREAMS “RIPOFF”. Run away!
Thank you for this informative blog! Do you believe Pro Model and Talent Management (PMTM) is a scam?
Katie, I’ve never heard of them and they are not listed on the SAG-AFTRA website as a franchised agent. And since OH is not a right-to-work state, it’s very likely that they are not a “mainstream” agency and more likely a “talent development” company – the ones I advise to avoid.
Here’s how to find legit resources in your area: https://actingcareerinfo.com/find-legitimate-talent-agencies-resources/
Hope that helps!
Larry
Hi Larry, I’m planning on signing up with this acting agency here in New Zealand called Ryan’s Talent and I know you’re based in the States but I’m dying for a second opinion. I contacted the agency and also checked online and they seem legit, but they did inform me that there is an annual fee of $120 NZD for Marketing & Admin fees, they told me it will also cover professional headshots & online portfolio and needs to be paid before my appointment with them. They also informed me that for every job i completed with them there will be a standard talent agency commission of 20% and tax 20%. Too me this seems too much but I need to know whether to trust them or not.
Hi John, You’re right, I’m not familiar with the New Zealand market but it sounds like a ripoff to me. Pay the fee before you even meet them? That’s crazy. No legit agent in the states would ever do that. And any time an agency wants to have Headshots included in their fee is also a red flag. The 20% commission and 20% “tax” is outrageous. If that were normal, no performer in New Zealand would be able to make enough money to live. I’d walk away and network some more with other actors there to find a legit agent.
Hey Larry, thank you for the awesome feedback, as soon as I got your reply I informed Ryan’s talent that I won’t be registering with them. I’ve found some interesting workshops here in Auckland and for theatre and stage and I’ll that a try. Thanks a lot for taking your time to respond. Much love from New Zwaland
Glad to help, John. I just looked up their website and it says they only cast background and featured extra roles. That’s not what you want anyway if you’re trying to be a serious actor. Keep on looking for legit places to network and legit resources (e.g. NZ Actors Guild, Actors Equity NZ, etc.). Hope the workshops are valuable. Best of luck!
-Larry
Is Meus Productions legit?
Aric,
Download my free ripoff guide to see if it has any red flags that I mention. My first impression is that it is legit.
Larry
Hey Larry is there any good places to start acting and or in Ohio! Cause their is this 321 shine place that came to town and I would love your help and thoughts
321 Shine is one of the companies I tell people to avoid.
Larry are you saying 321 shine is a scam? I can’t pull up the link. They were in the area and my neice was wanting to work with them.
Hi Sol,
I’m saying that they are not a company I recommend. Depending on where you live, there are likely more established local acting schools near you that train local actors that are MUCH cheaper and would provide training that teaches you how to be a working actor. Hope that helps.
Larry
My granddaughter had a try out this morning with 123 Shine. The lady told us as we finished not to let the money stand in the way. She mentioned her title and said she could do what she wanted to in the money department. She of coarse said that Alexa was great and may be in the 5% call back group. What should I say when they call?
321 Shine is one of the companies I tell people to avoid. They are not a talent agency and charge ridiculous fees (in my opinion).
Thanks sooo much! I was about to be scammed!!! Great advice! I admire you!
(Thanx soooooooooooooo much!)
What do you think about Real People in Alabama?
Melissa,
They are a legit agency and I know the owner personally. In fact, I’ve booked work through them in partnership with my home agency in Atlanta. A great agency.
Larry
My boyfriends daughter was contacted by johnson/roufagency they said they saw her on Facebook want her for a commercial to show tomorrow and she will get $500.00 for her role. Is this a scam
If they “Found her on Facebook” I’d be very cautious. Sounds predatory to me and definitely not how the industry works. Hope that helps.
Larry,
What is your thoughts on Gage Modeling and Talebt Agency in Knoxville TN, Talent Trek in Knoxville TN or The Avenue in Nashville? Are they legit companies?
Thanks
Kristin
I’m familiar with Gage and know a couple people with them. However, I’m not familiar with the others. But I’m not from Knoxville, so that doesn’t mean much. I’d check them out and if you see any of the signs that I discuss in my free ripoff guide, walk away. Hope that helps. -Larry
Larry,
I live in Houston and have been drawn towards modeling. I’ve auditioned for Page Parkes Modeling, but the 8 week classes were too costly and there was more than one. I was curious to know if you knew of any good modeling agencies in the Houston area that are reputable and not only could represent me, but could teach me how to model, and help me succeed.
Thank You for your time,
Brook
Hi, Brook. I’m not familiar with the modeling world as much as I am with the acting world. But legit modeling agencies still should not charge to represent you. Most modeling agencies will give you recommendations for photographers and classes if they are needed. Houston is a smaller market, so there may only be a few legit agencies in town. Best bet is to try searching for legit agencies in the area and contact them. You’ll know they are legit if they don’t charge to represent you and don’t do their own photography for their models.
I thank you so much.I took my 6 year old son to 321 shine audition yesterday and he received a callback for today.they sent a text message and told me to make sure I bring the money because if chosen I would have to pay a couple thousand dollars today. So I googled the 321 shine company and found a few bad reviews and I found this website.so I’m not going to take him today. Thanks to you I will save my time and money
Yes, I’m not a fan of that company. Good call.
Everything I see is for actors. I am a stand up comedian, but I don’t know where to begin with agencies because everything seems to be geared toward actors and models.
Desiree,
I would start by going to local comedy clubs and asking about open mic nights. Also, if you can go see some of the headliners at those clubs, ask them who their booking agent is and if they are taking new talent. You’re right in that acting talent agencies don’t book comedians for live performances. That’s a special niche. Hope that helps.
Larry
What do you know about F. David Mogull former owner of Model Search America and his current talent scout agency Mogull Talent? He is holding ‘interviews’ in the NYC Metro area and follow up with ‘workshops’, etc.
Hi Diane,
Sorry for the late response, we have been inundated with comments and are catching up.
This company is going to want about $4000 for you to participate if selected (and you’ll most likely be selected). Here is a comment from someone who recently experienced this company:
Hope that helps,
Lisa
Larry’s Assistant
AdvantageTalent development in Franklin/Nashville TN a scam? I checked BBB there were no complaints.
Kathie,
If it is this company:
Advantage Talent Agency, LLC.
Full Service (All Ages)
118 16TH AVENUE SOUTH STE 240 NASHVILLE, TN 37203
6159532486
They are listed on the SAG/AFTRA website so they are legit. 🙂
I wanted to know if you heard of nine 9 The Unagency. I read the reviews and they we’re 50/50. What is your opinion?
Jamila,
Unfortunately, we do not know about every agency in the US. Sounds like you’ve done some research and if the reviews are 50/50, I’d look for something else.
Lisa
Larry’s Assistant
Hi Larry ,my daughter entered her girl in a talent audition with undiscovered talent agency on march 30,2017in Ottawa Ontario and received 2 call backs and initially paying them $6000.00 Canadian now this agency wants $12000 Canadian dollars to send her to I pop international in Los Angeles in june/ July I”m sick because they ripped her offend took advantage of her they are a scam how would we be able to get her $6000 refunded and have you heard of this agency.
regards Doris
Doris,
Unfortunately, we are not aware of every agency across North America. That is why we try to caution people to look for red flags and listen to their gut. There should be no reason a talent agency should ask for money up front. Try to see if you can get any of that money back, but your daughter may have lost her $6000. So sorry that happened to her.
Lisa,
Larry’s Trusty Assistant
What do you know about inspire talent? And The Industry Network
I am not too familiar with either of them. However, if they are asking for money to be represented, take a look at other options.
What about East Coast Talent Agency? I didn’t see them on the SAG website you mentioned in the thread.
We get multiple questions daily about companies. Unfortunately, we cannot vet every company and cannot verify if they are legitimate or not. If they are making promises of stardom and asking for thousands of dollars, try to find a local agent via sagaftra.org website. Research is key.
Hey. What do you think of John Robert Powers? Are they a scam?
They offer classes, headshots, and programs for an inflated price. They’ve been around for over 20 years, but we do not recommend them.
Do you know any good talent agencies in Maryland?
Check sagaftra.org.
Just wanted to retype question with the link to their site. Have you heard of ATG?
http://www.acttg.com/
thank you.
Unfortunately, we cannot know every agency in the US. We suggest that people be wary of companies that are requesting several thousands of dollars to train and represent you.
What can you tell me about ” The Industry Network”. Any info would be helpful. My son met with them. & he had a call back but want $500 to represent him to casting directors.
Thanks for your comment. You can find information in ourActing Reference Guide
Hi Larry, tahnkyou for the helpful post 🙂 Is the Starquest -talent management, Toronto real or a rip off. They are charging only 191$ and access through actoraccess.com. What is your take on it? Do I pay and expect some extras offers or should I refrain from all this.